Please indulge me, I'm a meta fiend...

[inthekeyofd.livejournal.com]

I love meta, so please indulge me.

These may seem like simple questions, but I love a good discussion..





1. Does anyone else think that at least a small part of the attraction between Zach and Shaun, in the very beginning was the fact that Shaun was someone he could TALK to, even just go surfing with, remember how he used to go alone and how he had said when Gabe told him that people didn't see him around (and we all know he was spending time with Shaun) he said because everyone had left, that Shaun was someone he could sit and talk to, he couldn't talk to Tori, certainly not Jeannie and let's face it, Cody is 5..so I think that while yes, he was attracted and Shaun too, a tiny little part was the companionship as well, you could even take that to be on Shaun's part too, he may have wanted to clear his head, but he may have wanted someone to talk to as well..he did just come from a bad break up.

2. Does anyone else think that Tori thought Zach was with Shaun long before he tried to tell her he was gay, I mean, she did tell him she knew for a time that Zach was and she was the one that brought up Shaun, plus, I think her mentioning that Shaun was good with Cody was very telling when they were having their conversation at the life guard tower when Shaun was watching Cody for them while he built the sand castle, and I think it was Tori that told Jeannie he was hanging around with him and that Jeannie was the one that told Tori that Shaun was gay, if she didn't know already--seeing that a lot of people already did.

3. Why didn't Gabe see Zach's car in the driveway when he almost caught them...unless he did see it and just didn't let or..or maybe Shaun picked him up, but then again, how could Zach get back home, that house was pretty far away from where he was living, even if he skateboarded it.



Just a few things I was thinking about, little things that this movie sort of makes you think about, seriously, this movie wasn't just great to watch, but it left you with the possibilities of having great discussions...*sigh* I just LOVE IT.

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[inthekeyofd.livejournal.com]

IT'S OFFICIAL, we SHARE A BRAIN. I love that cliff scene and every time I watch it I almost follow the camera and can swear I see a nuzzle at the very least, I hate to say this, but I would have rather have seen that whole scene than the buying Cody the shoes one.

I LOVE THAT PIC, I've seen it and icons made of it and it just gets me right in the heart, and I think that pic is a PERFECT explanation of their relationship, don't you think, it's not only adorable but again it shows that Zach really wants to be with him..even if a few times he shied away from a kiss (oh that kitchen scene, that's why I love the end, before he'd move, BUT then he totally put his arms around him first and kissed him--I commend the director for adding that scene).

And YES YES YES, let me put it this way, my MOTHER watched that movie, of course I ff'd over the lovin' scenes..but she watched the rest and was like during the break up.."That's a shame, he's such a nice guy" and he is, Shaun is a DOLL and he totally loves full on and does it quickly, he reminds me of the type of guy that would do anything for anyone.

seriously, I may have to friend you just so you can read my meta, because I said the same thing, he SUPPORTS Zach, he ENCOURAGES Zach, he BELIEVES in Zach, he wants THE BEST for Zach--so much so he would send in his application because he doesn't want him to waste his talent.

That's more than his family ever did for him, Jeannie is so selfish she only thinks about herself at the sacrifice of her brother's happiness.

I was replying to someone who left a comment on my fic--they were worried if Zach would meet someone at college..my answer, NO, he's happy, he's got the life he's always wanted, for him, for Cody, he's loved, he's supported, and to me, he isn't the type to wander either..he isn't a partier either any more, he reminds me of the type that stays and sticks and wouldn't do something like that, they have a bond and it's not going to be broken.

*sigh*

Thank you for this, seriously, THANK YOU!!!

oh, and I would totally write that for you too...it would be a fun fic with laughs and of course Zach and Shaun love too. *smile*

[true-enough.livejournal.com]

OK. So I jumped the gun and friended you. I really do hope you don't mind. After all, we share a brain. ::throws up hands::

... even if a few times he shied away from a kiss (oh that kitchen scene ...

I think the hug in the backyard really calmed Zach down a lot. For one thing, he desperately needed it and for another I think it let him know that Shaun cares for him beyond what they do in bed. I was really heartened when Shaun gave Zach a goodnight kiss at the door and Zach didn't hesitate to return it. And yes, the canoodling at the beach at the end was so reassuring to see.

I was replying to someone who left a comment on my fic--they were worried if Zach would meet someone at college..my answer, NO ...

I am with you on this 100%! I would have an extremely hard time believing that either one would risk what they have in large part because it is so grounded in friendship and you just don't come across that very often - if at all. They are IT for each other. That is so abundantly clear. ::sigh::

The gratitude is all mine. When I started this I was honestly worried that no one would show up so I am very grateful to come across so many thoughtful and amazing people like yourself. Thank you!

[inthekeyofd.livejournal.com]

Believe me, it was okay!!! I added you right back. *smile*

You know what I love about that scene, other than the fact that it shows again just how wonderful Shaun is and how caring he is and how much I adore him..that even though Zach hesitates a second (and we'll totally give him a free ticket on that one, it is all new to him too..and not just the man love, but the fact that someone is so AFFECTIONATE with him, I'm sure Tori was, but this is different, this is more of a mature affection, if that makes any sense) and then just totally goes for it, another thing I do love about the movie, in a LONG LONG LIST, is that it shows just what you said, it's not all about sex, it's about just being there for someone else and Zach's slowly but surely opening up to him, it was like he was so guarded before but with him he can show his feelings so much easier.

Zach would never jeopardize what he has, and like you said, it's rooted in a friendship, one that has lasted a long time, they almost have a shared history and no one else is worth losing that over, it's one thing to just grow apart and it's another thing to look for someone else and there is no way that Zach or Shaun would do that, to me Zach is too grounded to do that, and also, too mature.

They found each other again at the perfect time, Shaun was hurting too, I think sometimes people forget about that as well, it's like he's got this love to give and finally found someone to give it to..that would appreciate it, their feelings run deep and in a way, they inspire each other to be and do their best. *sigh*

You are too nice!!! I love discussing good movies or shows or books, so this is like a treat for me!